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Avoid forced subtitles

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:02 pm
by gcxd68
Hi!

First of all, I wanted to thank you, I discovered UMS a few days ago, it's amazing!

Here's my problem. I like to watch my movies with eng audio, and french subtitles. What happens, is that I get the eng audio, but with the forced french subtitles - I checked, the forced subtitles appear at the beginning of the video. And of course, I need the full subtitles...

Here's an exemple: I have a movie with:
Audio: french (default) and english
Subtitles: french (default/forced), french (full) and english

Here are my parameters:
Audio language prority: eng,fre,und
Subtitles language priority: fre,eng,ger,und
forced language: fr (without "e"?)
forced tags: forced
Audio/subtitles language priority: fre,off;*,fre;*,und

I get the english audio, but impossible to get the full french subtitles. Is there a way to avoid the forced subtitles? Or something I can do to change subtitles on my PS3? Do I have to reencode or remux all my videos? I could extract the subtitle file I need to force it too (external subtitle)... What would you do?

Thank you very much...!

Re: Avoid forced subtitles

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:22 am
by ExSport
For better understanding of forced subs and Audio/Sub preference:
https://code.google.com/p/pms-exsport/wiki/FAQ
In your case you prefer english but forced subs are preferred as FRE so logic is:
Play english audio (not native language). For english audio you defined to use FRE subs.
Unfortunately UMS takes first subs found so "forced" are loaded.
There are two solutions:
1. Use TRANSCODE folder and choose preferred combination of audio/subs/engine
2. Remux file with MKVTOOLNIX and move "forced" subs after "full" subs in order.

Re: Avoid forced subtitles

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:44 pm
by gcxd68
Thank you very much. I set UMS up for fre with forced subtitles, and use the transcode option for eng audio with fre subtitles.

Re: Avoid forced subtitles

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:14 am
by ExSport
And 3rd solution is:
3. Add new code to skip forced subs when not native audio is played and load full ones if exists (reqirement is to have correctly tagged forced subs in container or in external file)
This should not be hard coding...question is how big interrest is in this feature 8-)